So I've always known there are a ton of unhealthy people out there. People who dislike themselves so much they have to tear others down. People who need affirmation so badly they are willing to do things they do not want to just to be accepted.
I have seen and heard a lot of ugly stories since I have been in the poly community. Stories of people coming in and trying to usurp primary relationships. This means that a man or woman is married or has a live in partner, and you come in as a girlfriend/boyfriend. Then instead of respecting the relationship status of others, you try to get more and more attention from people. You are so needy you don't take anyone else's feelings in to consideration. It's selfish and it doesn't work. And if you don't like yourself and respect others enough that you behave in this fashion, you need to take a step back and figure out why it is that this is your issue before you date.
An even more concerning issue to me is that women will hit on my boyfriends (and other poly friends I know) when they're out and about. They wear wedding rings. Once the people hitting on them find out they are in open relationships they want nothing to do with them. But when they thought they could hook up with a person who would cheat on their spouse dishonestly, they were all go. What the hell is wrong with people?
My boyfriends laugh it off, but as a woman who respects other women, I don't find it so amusing. I have cheated on one person in my entire life. I felt so guilty that I broke up with him a week later, figuring that if I didn't love him enough to remain faithful, I didn't need to be with him. Even when I was boozing it up and doing tons of drugs, I didn't have the capacity to be dishonest that some people do. Because in the end, you wake up and have to be able to live with yourself. Sometimes I don't know how some people can live with themselves.
I think in any relationship, whether it be a friendship or romantic, you need to communicate regularly and openly about EVERYTHING. You can not bitch about something to your friends about your significant other and hope it'll be fixed, if you haven't communicated it directly to your significant other. I see so many people who talk about problems in their relationship, when they've never talked about it to the person they need to be talking to about those problems. If you are afraid to offend or lose someone because you say something is bothering you, then maybe you shouldn't be with them in the first place. Yes, you can vent to people about issues you have and maybe just that little vent is all you needed and you're fine. If not, you need to take the next step and talk it out. Sometimes it is hard. But I find it is ALWAYS better and a huge sigh of relief to get things out in the open. Then, if things don't get better you know you have given it a shot, and maybe things just aren't working out and it's time to move on. But so many people get to the move on mindset, before they do the talking first. If you skip that step you will never be happy. Not ever.
When people ask me out now the first thing I say is, "I would love to go out with you if the fact that I have two boyfriends and am in open relationships does not bother you." That is usually all it takes for men to back off. And that's great. Monogamy works for some people. It didn't work for me. But I won't even go on a date with someone now unless I am very up front with where I'm at in life. I don't think it's fair to go on a date with a monogamous person, and maybe they like you, then you spring on them, "By the way, I have two boyfriends. SURPRISE BITCHES!!!" So I now only date poly fellas. And I generally only date poly fellas who are already in primary relationships, as I am not at all interested in having a primary relationship. I don't want a husband, or a cohabitational situation. I want what I have right now. It works for me.
I am step by step getting more healthy in my interactions with others. I sometimes feel or see my insecurities coming out in regard to my shared boyfriends. But it happens rarely and when it does I am quick to notice and apologize for it, hoping to not do it again.
Happy picture of the day: I want to be a unicorn for this reason exactly.
Monday, October 1, 2012
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Ha ha, "Surprise bitches!" That gave me a good chuckle :)
ReplyDeleteGood points! The thing that kills me is when someone complains about their partner and the people they told get upset on their behalf, and then the person just goes on, business as usual. They have no intention of talking to their partner, leaving the person they told upset for no reason. I learned my lesson with my cousin who has been in numerous toxic relationships, to just listen and not get emotionally involved.
Love the unicorn quote :)
Me too. I laugh at myself often.
ReplyDeleteRight? You have to communicate. People aren't mind readers.
I love it too. I am thinking of making it in to a shirt.
I agree with you on the cheating!! People just want to get a high off of getting into a married man's pants!!
ReplyDeleteAs far as a a bf/gf being more needy...I have to disagree with this one. If I'm with someone, I want all of their attention and affection. I mean, I don't like to share when it comes to relationships. I guess that means that poly relationships aren't for me...but it's still so interesting to hear about it!! :)
So gross.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing wrong with that hon. You know yourself and know what you want. I'm the opposite. I like my me time and my freedom, which is why the poly thing works so well for me. I love both my fellas, but I like the time to myself I had like yesterday.
Personally, I think you're a brave brave girl to take on more than one boyfriend. I can barely handle the one I've got. ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks. They've both got wives, and at least one other girlfriend so I actually get to miss them. I only see Matt once a week at most and Sean twice if I'm lucky. It is going really well.
ReplyDeleteI've been hurt so deeply in the past, I have zero patience for liars and cheaters. When one of my girlfriends started cheating, I told her I would not even hang with her, until that shiz was over. She got seriously pissed at me, cause she wanted to use me as her "alibi". Screw that! I was mad she wanted to put me in that crap position. Maybe she could lie her ass off to him, but I couldn't bare to look her hubs in the eye and not tell him the truth.
ReplyDeleteAlthough it's not my thing, I have nothing but mad respect for the poly community, for being so open and honest with one another!
Not only would I not cover for a cheating friend, I would stop being their friend.
ReplyDeleteHonesty is that it's all about. It takes bravery, but it's the only way to go.
When have I been hit on when I was with you? I generally do not mind someone flirting with me or my date. If they flirt with my date I just assume they have good tastes.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I laugh it off when they are only interested when they think I am cheating is because it is actually a defense mechanism. I deal with stress in many cases with humor. The reality is that this behavior is scary.
I never said you were hit on while we were out. And I think flirting is totally fine too.
ReplyDeleteI understand why you laugh it off. It's a way to deal with it so it doesn't depress you. It totally makes sense.
It's cool that you're happy in your relationships and current status (bragger...just kidding). This same notion of self-destructive-yet-also-selfish behavior could be a metaphor for a lot of obnoxiousness people get up to outside of relationships. I also admire your being upfront. Nothing worse than trap doors in a relationship.
ReplyDeleteI have to be up front. It's built in to who I am.
DeleteI joke about bragging all the time. I do feel like I get to brag a little. I'm pretty lucky.
Personally I think poly is intriguing...although in this day and age I think I'd be nervous about it. I admire you for your willingness to try it out and your honesty about sharing it with us.
ReplyDeleteOut of curiosity, what is done if there are children involved?
I will email you about the children.
DeleteI am assuming you are talking about being nervous because of diseases? We all get tested every year and I use condoms. The men only have unprotected sex with their wives.
The most interesting take away for me from this post is that paragraph in which you mention that people who hit on people with wedding rings often back out when they find that the married person is in an open relationship. Weird.
ReplyDeleteIt's because they either want a no strings attached one night stand, or they have low self esteem and need to see if they can get someone to cheat on their significant other.
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